Movies are another form of information relay for the ones in the know. Just like the Bible has many layers, so do movies. It’s the modern tool for occultists to communicate by.
We do live in a dualistic world at present. And so we will see forces for good and forces for evil playing out through film. It is clear in particular movies such as Snowpiercer, Mad Max and The Giver, that a force for good is being presented. In Interstellar, I found the opposite to be true. Also I’m finding similarities between Interstellar, The Martian and 2001, A Space Odyssey. Certain themes are weaved within both types of movie. This gives us an understanding of what both sides believe to be true. The differences in how the symbols and characters are handled determine what type of world they are trying to create.
I’ll explain as we get into the decoding.
For starters, let’s look at the title, Interstellar. What does that mean? A star within. What is this “star within”? Since these are occult (hidden) meanings we can look at the Tarot for an interpretation. We have the Star card.
From biddytarot.com-“The Star card shows a naked woman kneeling at the edge of a small pool. The woman holds two containers of water. She pours the water out to nourish the earth and to continue the cycle of fertility, represented by the lush greenery around her. The other container pours the water onto dry land in five rivulets, representing the five senses. The woman has one foot on the ground, representing her practical abilities and good common sense, and the other foot in the water, representing her intuition and inner resources, and listening to her inner voice. Behind her, shines one large star and seven smaller stars, representing your chakras. This represents a need to open your chakras and cleanse your aura. Notice all the stars have eight points. The Star is associated with the number 17, which equals 8 (1+7=8). Eight is Strength, the quality needed to accept your faults and love yourself in spite of them. The bird in the tree in the background is the sacred ibis of thought, roosting in the tree of the mind. The astrological sign of the Star is Aquarius.”
So since INTER stellar is about the INNER star, this portion of the meaning is what they are trying to convey- “representing her intuition and inner resources, and listening to her inner voice.” In a nut shell, follow your INTUITION.
We have the same symbolism in The Martian. Notice Amber Montrose’s necklace. It’s a little hard to see but it is the eight pointed yellow star of The Star tarot card. She wears this necklace throughout the movie and they make a point of showing this to us.
Now we also have “STAR” as one of the robots. Its name is TARS. (TARS is an anagram for STAR) I keep wanting to call it a “him” because it has a male voice and is set to be a joker.
TARS is the opposite of the robot in 2001, A Space Odyssey. In 2001, HAL 9000, does not listen to his owners and actually is the cause for several of their demise.
Notice also that The Star card represents the astrological sign Aquarius. The rebirthing- new waters- is also symbolic of reigning in a New Age, the Age of Aquarius, also known as the Aeon of Horus.
So in Interstellar they want us to think of TARS and his cohorts, KIPP and CASE, like people. Like they are one of us. This is a subtle way to push the transhumanism agenda. (The robot KIPP is named after Kip Thorne, a theoretical physicist from CalTech, whose work supposedly inspired the film.)
The film starts off at the farm house of Joseph “Joe” Cooper, a widowed father of two, former pilot, NASA astronaut and engineer. His daughter Murphy, is a chip off the old block. She is in her room studying an unexplained phenomenom. Her books appear to be falling off her bookshelf by themselves. Not only that but they are falling in what appears to be some sort of pattern.
Before we discuss the “phenomenon”, let’s first take a look at the books on the shelf.
There is Out of the Blue, by Isabel Wolff. (Note that Amelia Brand’s love interest, and fellow astronaut who pioneered to one of the twelve possibly viable planets, is Wolff Edmunds.) Out of the Blue was published on the same day as the Columbia shuttle disaster, February 1, 2003.
Next we have The Solitude, by Gabriel Marquez. He is a Colombian author whose novel is about the ficitional Buendia (Good day) family. Their patriarch founds the town of Macondo, the metaphoric Colombia. So we have a Columbia connection here. Columbia is a name for Isis.
We also have Ted Morgan’s biography of Somerset Maugham. Ted Morgan is an anagram of “de Gramont”. Maugham attended The King’s School in Canterbury, England and was an MI6 agent as well as a writer. Maugham wrote The Magician, whose main character was based on Aleister Crowley. Note that Aleister Crowley was also a writer and MI6 agent.
Then we have Three Cups of Tea, written by Greg Mortenson. What’s interesting about this story is that it takes place on the slopes of K2, the second highest mountain in the world. Crowley was a known mountain climber and attempted to climb K2. (K2 is 22 in numerology). Mortenson also attempted to climb K2.
Here’s Crowley soaking in a pool after his climbing expedition of K2. (Note also that Nathan Crowley was the Production Designer for Interstellar. Could they possibly be related?) Crowley reminds me of a devil in this photo. Notice how his right eye is covered and only his left eye is exposed. He sees through the left hand path.
So we have two books with Columbia and two with Crowley connections. Do we see a pattern yet? Another book comes up but not on the shelf. It is Gargantua and Pantagruel, by Francois Rabelais. Gargantua we are told by NASA in the story, is the black hole that two of the viable planets, Miller and Mann’s, encircle. Pantagruel is the smaller system that has Edmund’s planet in its orbit.
Now why would they use the names Gargantua and Pantagruel? It is a fictional book based off of the life of two giants, Gargantua the father, and Pantagruel, his son. These giants live a life in which they do what they like. They do not care about the laws of man or his moral code. From the Wiki- “The text is written in an amusing, extravagant, and satirical vein, and features much crudity, scatological humor, and violence (lists of explicit or vulgar insults fill several chapters). The censors of the Collège de la Sorbonne stigmatized it as obscene, and in a social climate of increasing religious oppression, it was treated with suspicion, and contemporaries avoided mentioning it.[2”
In it is a story about the Abbey of Theleme. From the Wiki- “As a reward, Friar John is given funds to establish the “anti-church” Abbey of Thélème, which has become one of the most notable parables in Western philosophy. It can be considered a point-by-point critique of the educational practices of the age, or a call for free schooling, or a defense of all sorts of notions on human nature.”
This is where Crowley got his motto, “Do what thou willst is the whole of the law.” This same motto was used by the Hellfire Clubs in nineteenth century England. They had the motto overhanging one of their club entrances.
The giants have no sense of decency and do some pretty disgusting stuff including playing with their poo. (Just like the Satanists.)
Notice too that the author, Francois Rabelais, likes to use anagrams as well. Again from the Wiki- “Although most modern editions of Rabelais’s work place Pantagruel as the second volume of a series, it was actually published first, around 1532 under the pen name “Alcofribas Nasier”, an anagram of François Rabelais.”
We have several numbers of significance in numerology come up as well. Twelve is prominent. There are 12 initial astronauts that go to 12 planets to try and find a habitable one. There are 12 capsules on the mother ship. The message they received about a worm hole was given 48 years prior (48 being 4 times 12 and adds up to 12, 4 + 8 = 12) in the vicinity of Saturn.
Sixty seven is also prominent. The Endurance launches in 2067. It reaches Mann’s planet (the second planet) which has 67 hours of daylight, off set by 67 hours of darkness. (6 + 7 = 13)
Edmunds’ is mentioned to have perished 77 years prior. 77 is a big number in Thelema. KIPP is the name of one of the three robots as mentioned earlier. KI= 9/11 and is the number for Earth. Ki means Earth in Sumerian. PP= 77. So KIPP represents a Thelemic connection to Earth.
So back to the story. I forgot to mention that this story takes place in an after Armageddon time just like most of the other movies I’ve decoded up to this point. The difference with this one is, it seems that the die off is due to a combination of war and crop failure. The crops are dying from a form of blight that is eating the crops. The blight is resistant to pesticides and “breathes” nitrogen. So the more blight that forms, the more nitrogen is produced and the less oxygen there is. Eventually the last humans will die of either starvation or suffocation. “The last people to starve will be the first to suffocate.” This theme is reminescent of the Dust Bowls in America. From the Wiki- “The Dust Bowl, also known as the Dirty Thirties, was a period of severe dust storms that greatly damaged the ecology and agriculture of the US and Canadian prairies during the 1930s; severe drought and a failure to apply dryland farming methods to prevent wind erosion (the Aeolian processes) caused the phenomenon.”
Here is their farm, where we are told that the last crop of Okra, ever, was just harvested. Many of the farmers were known as “Okies” because they came from Oklahoma. The only crops left are of corn. What is the number one GMO crop?
Notice all the tractors strangley were all travelling due north, which happened to be where the farm house was. Donald, Cooper’s father-in-law explains, “Magnetism, something interfering with the compass on the tractors. They are all heading north.” (North, towards the center, magnetic north?)
Before we get back to the books we have Cooper driving the kids to school. (Murphy and her older brother.) On their way they spot a rogue drone in the sky. (We notice drones were commonly used in The Giver as well.) Cooper has Murphy drive while he takes out his laptop and somehow manually takes over control of the drone and lands it. We are told how these are not used anymore. That there are no need for them now as there is no need for standing armies.
They load the drone in the back of the truck and drive to school. Murphy’s teacher is waiting with the principal to talk to Cooper about Murphy. Now this conversation is interesting because they make a point of telling us that the Apollo Missions never happened. That they never landed on the moon. They tell us the reason they were faked was to bankrupt the Soviet Union. Now although I believe the Apollo Missions did NOT ever reach the moon I think the reason they are stating is a lie. The bankers found communism to be very lucrative and in fact had Woodrow Wilson use ten percent of their discretionary budget (10 million a year) to keep the Soviet economy going. Watch this link by Eustace Mullins regarding this fact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq0_n7ZBX_c
Notice also the Baphomet star in the upper right corner.
So we have Murphy, Cooper’s daughter noticing books falling from her shelf. She believes the books are communicating with her. In some form of code and she is trying to figure out how. Cooper comes in and looks at the dust lines the books leave and realizes the code. Cooper says, “It’s not a ghost. It’s gravity. It’s binary. Thick is one and thin is zero. They are coordinates.”
Now before we move on want to mention that “gravity” is going to be the answer to everything in this movie. There are so many things wrong with this notion that I would need to write a whole separate article on it. Suffice to say, gravity is NOT the answer to fit all answers. Watch this link to get an idea why the notion of gravity is incorrect. (And please keep an open mind. I grew up being taught the “laws of gravity” as well as did every child on this planet. Could it be possible that it is one of the biggest mass deception’s taught to us?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Osm7azX6k
So Cooper determines that the lines are in binary and give coordinates. They look up the coordinates and decide to drive to the location to see what the “ghost” is trying to tell them.
The coordinates take them to the entrance of Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado where NORAD is located. (North American Aerospace Missile Defense Command)
They get picked up by security and brought in to meet what they find out is the remnant’s of NASA. This is where Dr. Brand (Michael Caine) explains the mission where the 12 astronauts each travel to a distant planet that holds the possibility of resettlement for human life. The mission is called Lazarus. Lazarus means “God is my help” in Hebrew. He was raised from the dead by Jesus after four days. Just below Lazarus is the bust of the Phoenix, which is also a symbol of being “born again”. The Phoenix rises from the ashes- reborn. It is flanked by 6 astronauts to the left and 6 to the right.
The teacher that Cooper talks to earlier when mentioning the Apollo mission hoax says, “We need to teach our kids about THIS planet, not tales of leaving it.” Very true! Now offset this with what Brand says when talking to Cooper, “We’re not meant to save the world, we’re meant to leave it.” Two directly opposing statements. Which one is true?
In Snowpiercer we had this message in a Tesseract at the beginning of the movie. (We will see the Tesseract come up again as well.)
But then we find out what the message says when the books fall. Murphy tells us the message is STAY. It’s STAY! So the question is, who wants us to leave and who wants us to stay? Dr. Brand represents NASA. He represents the elite. The teacher represents us- the rest of humanity. It is quite clear to me which path we are meant to take.
If you are not sure about Brand, he makes this statement, “Mankind was born on Earth. It was never meant to die here.”
So Dr. Brand informs Cooper of Plan A and Plan B to save humanity. Plan A is to attempt to reach the three astronauts that have sent signals back meaning they might be on a viable planet. They are Miller, Mann and Edmunds. Plan B is if there is no way back, they are bringing along a colony of fertilized eggs to start humanity over. Brand’s daughter, Amelia, is the geneticist. She mentions that the problem they have with the colony is “genetic diversity”. This is reminescent of the genetics used in The Giver (everyone was Caucasian, with straight brown hair). Notice that the geneticist’s “crops” (GMO Corn) are the only food supply available as well.
Dr. Brand and Cooper walk out to where the rocket is being worked on. Notice they are in a “round hole”, an abyss. This is similar to…
…The Maze Runner….
and A Dark Knight Rises…
So Cooper agrees to go on the mission to save humanity. He goes home with Murphy and tells the rest of the family. Murphy is devastated and feels abandoned. Cooper feels it is what he is meant to do.
We then see the scene where the astronauts are shooting out into space. During the ascent Dr. Brand recites the poem Do Not Go Gentle in That Good Night by Dylan Thomas. This is such a powerful poem. (One of my all time favorites.) They know it stirs a primal instinct in each of us. The instinct of survival. Here is the poem in its entirety:
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
So Dr. Brand sees their mission as a way to fight mankind’s imminent extinction on earth. It’s his way to “rage against it”. We will see Dr. Mann quoting this poem as well but for different reasons. But let’s not jump ahead. Before we move on, an interesting note, George R.R. Martin’s (Game of Thrones) first novel was inspired by this very poem. It is called Dying of the Light and is about a planet moving away from its life-supporting stars.
When they get to the worm hole, Dr. Romilly says, “It’s a sphere. Of course it is. You thought is would be a hole?” Cooper says, “I don’t know. Its just all the illustrations…” (Do they make this point to reinforce their “ball” theory perhaps?) Romilly continues, “Let me show you how it works. So they say you want to go from here to there. It’s too far so a worm hole bends space like this.. you can take a short cut through a higher dimension. So to show that they show three dimensional space in two dimensions. So a worm hole in two dimensions? A circle. What’s a circle in three dimensions? A sphere.” Now you can see how this is illogical because they can show a spherical object on paper. Also we do have two dimensional objects in our three dimensional reality. So if they wanted to show a circle they would draw a circle. If they wanted to show a sphere they would draw a sphere.
Here is a worm hole depiction. Notice how it looks like a hole (tunnel).
So they go through the worm hole to get to Miller’s planet. Miller’s planet encircles a black hole, which they are calling Gargantua. Doyle comments that its a “literal heart of darkness.” Notice how it looks very similar to the planet Saturn.
So they land on the water planet where seven years equals one hour. They find the wreckage of Miller’s craft and Amelia goes to retrieve the black box. A vast tidal wave approaches unexpectedly causing Doyle and Amelia to have to run back to the ship in the dense “gravity”. TARS ends up rescuing Amelia, but Doyle gets washed away. They have to wait there until the engines dry out and lose 23 years in the process. Once the engines dry out they effortlessly fly off and back to their mother ship. Now doesn’t that seem strange? This planet’s gravity is 130% compared to Earth’s yet they need a huge rocket to propel them into space from there, yet on this planet a tiny craft does the job effortlessly.
So they make it back to the mother ship and see the aged Romilly. They now have to decide whether to go for Mann or Edmunds’ planet. With both planets having similar chances, Amelia makes a case for love and Edmunds’ planet. She says, “then listen to me when I say love isn’t something we invented. Its observable, powerful. It has to mean something.” Cooper retorts, “utility, social bonding, child rearing.” Amelia is not dissuaded, she replies, “love is the one thing that transcends perceived dimensions of time and space. Maybe we should trust that even when we can’t understand it yet.” Cooper sets a course for Mann’s planet.
When they get there and enter the camp tent they find Mann’s cryogenics bed. It says Dr. Mann 04 on it.
They open it up and wake Dr. Mann. Now we find out that Dr. Mann’s first name is Hugh, so Hugh Mann, human.
Upon waking, Mann says, “The last time I went to sleep I didn’t even set a waking date. You literally “raised me from the dead”. So he is the symbolic Lazarus, being raised from the dead. Remember Lazarus is raised after 4 days. Mann’s number is 4. Earth’s number is also 4. So Mann is the Phoenix rising, the rebirth.
Notice the similarity with Matt Damon’s character in The Martian. He was “left for dead” and arose as well. “Surprise! I’m alive!”
Mann tells them a little about the planet knowing full well it isn’t viable. He tricked them into coming to save himself. He is a coward and selfish in Interstellar, whereas in The Martian he is brave and resourceful.
But before they realize this a message comes from Earth. It is Murphy informing Amelia her father has passed away. They find out too that Dr. Brand knew that Plan A would fail. He confessed that he solved the equation of “gravity” long ago and that it was only a piece of the puzzle. Therefore, to him, it was a case of “the ends justifies the means.” Notice that this is the philosophy of the Jesuits. Are they connected here?
When Mann realizes Cooper has caught on to the lie he says, “When I left Earth I thought I was prepared to die. The truth is I never really thought of the possibility that I wasn’t the ONE. Nothing worked out the way it was supposed to.” Cooper replies, “you fucking coward.” Mann answers, “don’t judge me Cooper. You were never tested like I was.”
Mann punches a hole in Cooper’s face mask and says, “our survival instinct is our greatest source of inspiration. What research tells us is that the last thing you see before you die? Your children. Their faces.” Mann then quotes the Do Not Go Gentle In That Good Night poem. So here it is one man fighting imminent extinction.
Cooper gets rescued by Amelia just in time but Mann returns to the craft to fly to the mother ship. (Romilly in the mean time got blown up by a booby trapped KIPP.) He docks “imperfectly”. Causing the oxygen to leak and blowing up his craft. Cooper is an ace space cowboy and does a mind blowing maneuver to dock them safely to the ship.
They don’t have enough fuel to fly with the full weight to Edmunds’ planet so Cooper tells Amelia they will release TARS. Amelia doesn’t know but Cooper is planning to sacrifice himself as well. When they get near the spot where they will sling shot her, Cooper and TARS deattach themselves.
Cooper ends up in a tesseract built by the 5th dimensional beings. Notice the similarity when Dave is inside the mainframe unplugging HAL.
Dave and Cooper even have similar expressions.
Supposedly these beings create a way for Cooper to “talk” to Murphy. Through time and space to teach her what the remainder of the formula is to save humanity. (Its not to save their world because they end up on a space station that looks like home.)
Cooper ends up getting rescued by astronauts and brought to their new space station. A plaque commemorates their mission. Upon waking and learning what happened Cooper finds out that Murphy is alive but very old now. That upon hearing of his rescue is coming to see him.
She is the hero of humanity. Cooper station is named after her.
She tells her dad to go and find his love, Amelia. Cooper goes to find Edmunds’ planet.
We see her land and find a viable planet but with Edmunds deceased. Notice how similar this planet looks like to Mars in The Martian.
So in Interstellar the hero is Murphy; whereas in The Martian the hero is Mark Watney.
Notice how they use the same characters in both films. You can see how they make Dr. Mann a villain in Interstellar and a savior in The Martian. They even show Watney mentioning he hopes “Jesus won’t mind” that he uses part of the crucifix for his survival- to associate Watney with Christ.
So you can see how Interstellar has the Thelemic philosophy behind it and they are pushing their agenda. The Martian seems to be a counter to this “working”. They are showing the resiliency of humanity. They are showing their is hope for a positive outcome- a positive future.
*I need to add this bit as well… if you look at the overall theme of Interstellar you can see how there is no mention of God whatsoever. Our “saving” is assumed to be through science. GMO corn “saved” us. The geneticists who made a colony of humans “saved” us.
Inter-stellar also means the “god within”. The inner star. That is how they want us to perceive ourselves- as mini gods. Look what the gods can achieve. The take the Creator out of the picture all together.
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